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Defined Terms and Documents    
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8 December 2011 
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Ms. Sharon 
van Etten 
Public Relations Officer, Media & Public Relations Office 
Reserve Bank of Australia 
65 Martin Place  
Sydney  NSW  2000 
Dear Sharon 
*           Request 
to the Reserve 
Bank of Australia, hereinafter the RBA, to 
implement the same "competitiveness and efficiency" 
that it has overseen in the 
Wholesale Supply Side of the debit and credit cards products to the 
Retail Supply Side of 
credit cards, because banks profits from credit cards are not derived 
from the 
User Pays Principle 
 *           
All users should pay the cost of their credit card 
transactions, and not some "unlucky" users 
 paying a disproportionate burden 
which has further gapped the "Haves" from the "Have Nots"   
 
I refer to - 
(i)        
my initial email to  
RBAInfo sent Tues, 25 Oct '11 19:35 
which noted 'inter alia' that 
"After 
retiring from a 37 year career at CBA, where I dealt with former RBA colleagues 
in the late ‘70s at what was then known as Note Issue, I now spend part of my 
time pursuing causes with Govt and bureaucracy that I think have merit"; 
(ii)       
your email 
response 
sent 
Thurs, 10 Nov '11 
2:27pm; 
 
(iii)      
my holding 
response to RBA from a camp ground in Berry NSW sent 11 Nov 1;15pm;  
(iv)      
my email to RBA sent Fri, 16 Dec '11; 
 and 
(v)       
my 
email to RBA sent Tues, 20 Dec '11 
 
1.         Summary of eight  
Attachments 
 
Attachment 'A' is 
an Excel file which opens at worksheet 'Low 
Interest Credit Cards' from 
www.australia.creditcards.com
with separate worksheets that set out many of Australia's most popular credit cards 
under different criteria (ie. 'Top 10 Best Credit Cards',  'Low Annual Fee Credit Cards', 'Low Interest Credit Cards') with - 
 
(A)        'annual interest rates' for an 
interest free period of 55 days - 
 
              *         
as low as  10.99%  -     674 basis points 
above the RBA Official Interest Rate  - 4.25% 
										 
as at 6 Dec '11; and 
 
              *         
as high as 20.99% on 
purchases and 21.74% on cash advances 
 
 - 1,674 basis points and 1,749 basis points respectively, above the RBA Official Interest Rate  - 
4.25% 
										 
as at 
6 Dec '11.
 
   
 
(B)        'annual fee' for an interest free 
period of 55 days - 
 
              *         
as low as    $45; and 
 
              *         
as high as $700.
 
   
(c)         
'loyalty reward points' - 
              
*         as low as no points  
for every $1 spent; and 
              
*         as high as 
2½ points for 
every $1 spent.  
All of the 
 
'annual interest rates' in (A) above are on 'an on-going (no honeymoon/no introductory rate) basis'. 
  
 
Attachment 'B' 
is titled 
Pertinent 
extracts from the below three payments system/credit card reports provided in 
Sharon van Etten's 
(Media & Public Relations Office) 
email to Phil Johnston sent Thurs, 10 Nov '11 2:27pm: 
  
	
	1.  
	
	Strategic Review of Innovation in the Payments 
	System: Results of the Reserve Bank of Australia’s 2010 Consumer Payments 
	Use Study June 2011, 
	 
	
	2.  
	
	Payment, Clearing and Settlement Systems in the CPSS 
							Countries – Volume 1 (The Red Book) 
	 
	3. 
	 Payment Systems in EMEAP Economies (EMEAP Red Book 
							July 2002)  
 
 
Attachment 'C' is the 
							
RBA's 
"Our Role" 
which "is 
								directed to the greatest advantage of the people 
								of Australia and that the powers of the Bank ... 
								are exercised in such a manner as 
...........................will best 
								contribute to...............the 
									economic prosperity and welfare of the 
									people of Australia."  
  
 
Attachment 'D' 
is the  
Payments System Board's Responsibilities 
and Powers, 'et al'   which notes that 
- 
*        
 "The Reserve Bank Act 1959, as 
							amended,
 gives the Payments System Board 
							responsibility for determining the Reserve Bank's 
							payments system policy........ in a way that will best contribute 
							to ......promoting the efficiency of the payments system; 
								and 
								promoting competition in the market for payment 
								services, consistent with the overall stability 
								of the financial system."  
							
							*          
							"Increasingly, central banks are being given 
							explicit authority for payments system safety and 
							stability, 
							but the Board's legislative responsibility and 
							powers to promote efficiency and competition in the 
							payments system are unique.
							This responsibility 
							has broadened the Bank's 
							traditional focus on the high-value wholesale 
							payment systems which underpin stability, to 
							encompass the retail and commercial systems where 
							large transaction volumes provide scope for 
							efficiency gains." 
							
							*         
							"The Bank's 
							wide-ranging powers in the payments system are set 
							out in the 
							Payment Systems (Regulation) Act 
							1998. 
							It may .....'designate' a particular payment system as being 
								subject to its regulation.......determine rules for participation in that 
								system, including rules on access for new 
								participants. Since access is inextricably 
								linked to efficiency the Bank works closely with 
								the Australian Competition and Consumer 
								Commission (ACCC) set 
								standards for safety
								and 
								efficiency for that system. These may deal with issues such as 
								technical requirements, procedures, performance 
								benchmarks and
								pricing;
								 
							
							*         
							 The 
							
							Payment Systems (Regulation) Act 1998 
							also gives the RBA 
							"extensive powers" 
							 
							
							to "...gather information from a 
							payment system or from individual participants." 
							  
							  
*         
"The Reserve Bank Act 1959  
provides a 
							clear delineation between the Payments System Board, 
							which has responsibility for the Bank's payments 
							system policy, and the Reserve Bank Board, which has 
							responsibility for the Bank's monetary and banking 
							policies and all other policies except for payments 
							system policy.  Instances of conflict over policies 
							should therefore be rare.  
However, if a conflict 
							were to arise, 
							the view of the Reserve Bank Board 
							would prevail to the extent that there was any 
							inconsistency in policy." 
  
 
Attachment 'E' 
is the 
Joint Press Release from the Treasurer and the Minister for Financial Services & Superannuation for the  
			
 
			National Consumer Credit 
			Protection Amendment (Home Loans and Credit Cards) Bill  
			 
which informs that there are some 15 million credit-card 
			accounts in Australia - many families have 2 or 3 different cards - 
			and asserts that the below five reforms which only apply to new 
credit cards taken out after 1 July 2012 
"will stamp out lender practices that see consumers 
			pay more interest than they should":
  
	- 
	
Force credit card lenders to 
	allocate repayments to clear higher interest debts first;  
	- 
	
Stop 
	lenders from bombarding consumers with pre-approved, 
	tick 'n flick 
	offers to increase their credit limits;  
	- 
	
Prevent 
	lenders charging fees to customers who go over their credit limit unless 
	they've expressly asked for this service;   
	- 
	
Make it 
	mandatory for credit-card application forms to include a clear summary of 
	key account features;  
	- 
	
	Require all lenders to clearly warn consumers on 
	their monthly credit statement of the consequences of only making minimum 
	repayments.  
 
Attachment 'F' is an unrequested invitation from ANZ 
Bank dated 14 Nov 11 to my 90 year old mother in an envelope which notes "Sick 
of paying a high interest rate on your credit card".  
The enclosed letter offered 2.9% p.a. interest on the balance transferred 
for first 12 months and mentions other peripheral benefits for its ANZ First 
Visa card.  The very high interest rate on purchases and the even higher interest 
rate on cash advances is hidden in the fine print.  The ANZ's envelope falsely asserts that its First Visa card has a low interest rate, and combined with its enclosed letter, constitutes 
predatory, deceptive, misleading and unconscionable marketing, but probably no more so than most 
Credit Card Issuers.    
Attachment 'G' snapshots 'inter alia' that: 
	- 
	
	There were an estimated 16 million credit cards in 
	circulation in Australia in 2009.   
	- 
	
	Australians spent $19.19 billion on credit and charge cards in the month of October 2009.
	  
	- 
	
The 
	average credit card account balance was $3,141 in October 2009.   
	- 
	
Total 
	credit and charge card balances outstanding stood at $45.153 billion in 
	October 2009.   
 
Attachment 'H' 
titled 
 
 
All Smoke and Mirrors  
provides an unfortunate testament of the prudential role performed by the 
bank - 
            
(i)         entrusted to be 
banker and financial agent for the Commonwealth; and 
            
(ii)        with a charter to protect "....the 
economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia".
 
if
 
CreditCards.com (parent site of 
australia.creditcards.com) 
is being paid by some 
or all of
Our 
Bank/Issuer Partners 
(ANZ, Aussie, Bank Mecu, Bankwest, citi, NAB, St George, Virgin, Westpac) 
for providing links to those banks' websites credit card products at
 , 
because some like NAB's Low Interest Credit Card, Bank mecu's Low Interest Rate 
Credit Card
and
Bankwest's  
Breeze MasterCard  are patently deceptive. 
Attachment 'I'
is a report from the Melbourne Institute released 17 June 2010 which 
noted that “Credit card debt overtook 
mortgage debt as the main form of household debt in June, 36.6 per cent compared 
to 33.9 per cent.  This is the first time since November 2006 that 
households nominate credit card and not mortgage debt as their main form of 
debt.” 
2.       
Comments on your email sent 
 
Thurs, 10 Nov '11 2:27pm 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
Attachment 'B' and 
(I.), (II.) and (III.) below highlight that the RBA 
"has  
taken a number of steps to improve the competitiveness and efficiency"
of 
the 
Wholesale Supply Side of the debit and credit card products which look to be priced 
reasonably for 
"the economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia":   
  
(I.)       In 2006 PSB prescribed 
the 
interchange fee standard (paid by transaction acquiring institutions, 
hereinafter Merchants to Credit Card Issuers to be no higher, on a weighted average basis, 
than a cost-based
benchmark.  
Interchange fees in the Visa and MasterCard systems are paid by the 
Merchants to 
Credit Card Issuers
and are subject to regulatory caps - a weighted average of - 
*        50 basis points for 
credit card
transactions, and  
*        12 cents for 
Debit Card transactions.   
(II.)       Around 2006, PSB 
removed restrictions on Merchants charging surcharge fees (which may differ in 
percentage) to customers for 
use of credit cards according to the fee charged to the Merchant by the Credit Card Issuers.   
(III.)      The RBA undertook reforms to the EFTPOS system for proprietary debit cards and 
the debit
card system operated by Visa in Sept 2006. MasterCard provided a voluntary
undertaking to comply with the Visa Debit Standards.  
These reforms - 
 i)         capped the 
level of
scheme debit interchange fees;  
             ii)         set a cap and floor to bilateral EFTPOS system 
interchange
fees;  
             iii)        removed the requirement that 
Merchants accepting scheme credit cards also 
accept
scheme debit cards;  
             iv)        allowed 
Merchants to surcharge customers using scheme debit 
cards
for payment; and  
             v)         liberalised access arrangements for the EFTPOS system, 
 
            
in 
conjunction
with an EFTPOS Access Code developed by APCA.   
 
              
            From January 2010, the RBA
established a separate cap for multilateral EFTPOS interchange fees. 
The BPAY biller's financial institution pays a 
wholesale cost-based benchmark fee 
to the BPAY payer's
institution of - 
             *           45.1 cents for a BPAY payment from a deposit account, or
 
             *           40.7 cents 
(plus 0.297% of
the transaction value) for each BPAY payment from a credit card account. 
  
The above interchange fee standard, allowance of Merchant fee 
surcharges and
BPAY fee structure are testaments to the application of 
"cost-based benchmarks" 
on the 
Wholesale Supply Side. 
  
    
Perhaps a lot of  
Argy Bargy amongst the following 
lobby groups over supply/demand impacts 
and cost-based benchmarking of services/funding costs have contributed to the 
"competitiveness and efficiency" on the 
Wholesale Supply Side of the debit and 
credit card systems in Australia: 
	- 
	
Visa, 
	MasterCard, Amex, Diners Club 
	ePal - part-owned by the four pillar banks and also Coles and Woolworths  
	- 
	
Australian 
	Payments Clearing Association  
	- 
	
	AMA 
	The
	Pharmacy Guild  
	Retail Traders Association
	  
	- 
	
	Australian Newsagents Federation  
	- 
	
other Merchant 
	special interest groups 
	
	TYRO Payments Limited  
 
Based on my dealings with the RBA in the late 
'70s, and my understanding why Commonwealth Bank of Australia was divested of it 
central bank functions in 1959 (refer Section 3 below), and having considered
 
Attachment 'C' 
and 
 
Attachment 'D', 
I am unable to comprehend your contention that 
"The Payments System Board of the Reserve Bank has 
no regulatory power over these aspects of credit cards."  
I understand that the RBA has 
"...extensive powers..." 
to  
"......encompass the retail and commercial systems where large transaction 
volumes provide scope for efficiency gains.....to 
gather information from a payment system or from individual participants" 
and is therefore authorised to request:  
	
	"All the banks 
	to provide monthly (or quarterly) data on: 
	
	1.       Number of cards 
	that repaid total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of those 
repayments. 
	
	2.       Number of cards 
	that repaid > or =50% of total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of those 
> or = 50% repayments.  
	
	3.       Number of cards 
	that repaid<50% but >5% of total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of 
those <50% but >5% repayments.  
	
	4.       Number of cards 
	that repaid <=5% of total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of those <=5% 
repayments." 
 
If the RBA has to create a new regulation(s), 
then it has the authority and charter to do so. 
  
 
Attachment 'E' 
			
National Consumer Credit 
			Protection Amendment (Home Loans and Credit Cards) Act 
 
			contains some useful reforms which will come into 
effect from 1 July 2012 - 7 months away.  However, the 
Press Release
WRONGLY asserts that the five reforms 
"will stamp out lender practices that see consumers 
			 
			pay more interest than they should".  
This 
Act does not to stop the existing 15 million 
credit card accounts being burdened with very high interests rates (up to 
20.99% on purchases and 21.74% on cash advances) and 
perhaps even higher, that are materially higher than the 
Credit Card Issuers' cost of funds.  (The RBA Official Rate is 
presently 4.25%.  NAB's Low Rate Visa Card charges a competitive 13.49% 
after the 55 days interest free period for purchases and has an annual fee of 
only $59.  It even offers a very cheap 2.99% on purchases for the initial 
12 months and 4.99% for 6 months on balance transfers.  
										
										The 
interest-free period for up to 55 days only 
										applies "on 
										purchases if you pay your account in 
										full by the due date each month.".  
Many other cards are charging 750 basis points higher than NAB's 
Low Rate Visa Card for purchases with higher annual fees.)  NAB's Low Rate Visa Card 
does charge a very high 21.74% p.a. for cash 
advances. 
  
The 
			
National Consumer Credit 
			Protection Amendment (Home Loans and Credit Cards) Act 
 
			does NOT ensure that the existing 15 
million credit-card accounts will not continue to be burdened with very high 
interests rates, as acknowledged by PM, Julia Gillard 
"These changes will apply to new credit 
cards" 
- top of 
pg 4.  The existing 15 million credit-card accounts will 
continue  "....to pay more interest than they 
should".  Hopefully the 
Act will reduce predatory, deceptive 
and misleading marketing as evidenced in 
Attachment 'F'  above.   
3.         Commonwealth Bank of Australia lost its central bank functions 
in 1959 
Prior to 1959 Commonwealth Bank of Australia ("CBA") performed the central bank 
functions in Australia; CBA was banker and financial agent for the 
Commonwealth.  Those central banking functions were separated from the 
CBA's commercial activities with the Reserve Bank Act of 1959.  On 14 
January 1960, the Reserve Bank of Australia opened for business with Dr H.C. Coombs as the first Governor of the RBA.   
The 
RBA was established to ensure that CBA - 
(i)         did not enjoy a competitive 
advantage from the other Australian banks (ie. Bank of New South Wales, 
National Bank of Australia, Commercial Banking Company of Sydney, Rural Bank 
of NSW, 
ES&A Bank and National Bank of Australasia, 'et al'); and 
(ii)        Australia's central bank 
functions were not conflicted because the RBA would remain "at arm's length" 
so as to comply with its 
role. 
4.        
Australia's central bank should best contribute 
to the economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia by regulations 
that - 
            
a)         acknowledge that - 
                         
*        all humans are not born with the same
 
literacy and numeracy skills, and  
                        
 
*        other "unlucky" Australians may 
purchase property immediately prior to a property slowdown and get caught in a 
credit squeeze exacerbated by higher energy, fuel and food prices, colloquially 
known as "the new poor"; and 
            
b)         ensure Australia's 
payments system treats all 
Australians equally by ensuring that the interest rates on 'purchases' and 
'cash advances' are based on the real cost of funds and 
quantifiable credit default risk 
Homo Sapiens 
are born with a variety of skills, talents and cogitative powers which 
are increasing and evolving.  A very small proportion can 
run 100m in under 11 seconds.  Some with 
brilliant minds are socially or sporting inept.  Some are more 
intelligent than others.  Many of the less intelligent, less educated, 
struggle with managing their personal finances.  Some had parents who meticulously taught them 
money management skills from an early age, 
and were encouraged 
to do chores to earn their pocket money and likely had jobs over 
Christmas at Macca's, a petrol station or a supermarket from age 14.  
Many other humans were not so "lucky".  They simply drew 
parents who could not manage money themselves. 
Gene lines of 
humans that have better adapted to life on terra firma generally live in the 
higher socio-economic suburbs and enjoy a higher quality and duration of life.  A lot of "luck", and "bad luck", applies to being born a human.  
Humans who enjoyed good parenting, and were passed on good genes, are "lucky" 
humans.  It 
seems that many "lucky" humans are too often not disposed to help 
those who, through no fault of their own, have been "unlucky" with the 
gene line and intellect that they inherited.  In fact, 
the survival of the fittest instinct that Homo Sapiens 
required to survive 
over a hundred thousand years ago still exists in too many aspects of life and business 
today, even though those threats largely no longer exist, particularly in The Lucky Country.  
When Homo Sapiens  
first began appearing in East Africa approx 150 thousand years ago our 
direct descendants had to feed, clothe and house themselves  
when most of animal life around them were much stronger and larger.  These 
included Neanderthal, at times a brutal carnivore who sometimes hunted 
and ate the weaker and more vulnerable, Homo Sapiens.  There should 
be no place for a survival of the fittest mentality 
today, especially over the task of managing personal finances which 
"up to half of Australian adults" struggle with. 
  
  
The 
Productivity Commission's report 
Links Between Literacy and Numeracy 
Skills and Labour Market Outcomes dated Aug 
2010 utilised data from a 2006 survey on the literacy and numeracy skills of the 
Australian adult population which lamentably revealed that literacy and numeracy 
skills 
for nearly half of the population were 
assessed at either levels 1 (the lowest level) or 2, both of 
which are below the minimum level deemed necessary to participate in a 
knowledge-based economy (level 3). 
  
	
		| SMH 'Business 
Day' article "Middle class hit by debt 
- 
					Huge 
mortgage repayments and credit cards bills are taking their toll"
					
					dated 21 Jan 2009 interviewed Tony Devlin, Head Financial Counsellor, Salvation Army's 
					Moneycare service.  Tony commented
		that 
"There are far more middle-income earners seeking a way out of the desperate 
cycle of huge mortgage repayments and mounting credit card debt.........And people try to 
					keep the ship afloat by using more credit cards." 
		 
		 
		The writer spoke to Tony Devlin on Wed 7 Dec 
		'11.  Tony told him  "It is not 
		uncommon to meet people in financial trouble who had significant debts 
		on between 6 and 10 credit cards."    
		
		How can this be if  
		- 
		
		i)      
		   Baycorp Advantage (formerly Credit Reference Association 
		of Australia) holds credit details on all of us; and  
		
		ii)         all credit card applications require the Credit Card Issuers to obtain 
		a Credit Reference Report from Baycorp Advantage? 
		
		iii)        does a Credit Reference Report factor in cards held by a partner at the 
		same address? 
		Brian Harvey, 
					chairman of the Financial and Consumer Rights Council in 
					Victoria who manages seven financial counsellors for the 
					Good Shepherd program on the Mornington Peninsula said
"the demographics have 
					changed in the past 18 months.  As well as people on 
					pensions, we are seeing middle-income earners overcommitted 
					on mortgage repayments and credit card debt and struggling 
					with big price jumps for food and petrol."  | 
		
		 
		  
					
		Tony Devlin, Head 
		Financial Counsellor  
		Salvation Army's 
					Moneycare service  | 
	 
 
Perusal of item 
3 
	
	
	
	Payment Systems in EMEAP Economies (EMEAP Red Book 
							July 2002) 
in 
 
Attachment 'B' 
indicates that none of the East Asian Pacific credit card systems reviewed 
therein have adopted a 
User Pays Principle on the 
Retail 
Supply Side 
of credit cards.  However, because of our 
heritage and high standard of living, by all the standard measurements, Australia has a higher 
sense of community 
than many of those countries.  Australia is ideally placed to lead the way in heeding 
the warnings of the 
WEF (refer Section 
5 
below)  
and other august international organisations to put in 'checks and balances' 
to facilitate all people being treated equally, as 
well as mitigate 'Compulsive Buying' substance addiction  
(refer Section 6 below).   
 
 
Attachment 'C'  carries a responsibility in 
The Lucky Country for the RBA to perform the parenting role for those "unlucky" 
parents who were not born with the skills to teach 
their siblings
money management skills, by 
prosecuting the case against the other powerful lobby groups, in particular 
Credit Card Issuers, on behalf of the 
'unlucky" humans to
provide A) to H) of Section 8 below.   Commonwealth Bank 'lost the 
gig' in 1959 because Bank of New South Wales, 
National Bank 'et al' argued 'inter alia' that the central bank must always be 'at 
arms length' in performing its role to "......
best contribute to.... the 
									economic prosperity and welfare of the 
									people of Australia." 
When survival of the fittest was the law of the jungle, there 
were no safety nets for the weaker.  But there are now, whereupon 
the fiscal burden of collateral damage from the following all cost the public 
purse billions of dollars annually:  
(i)         depression, physical and other mental health problems;  
(ii)        increased 
health care and social welfare costs;  
(iii)       diminished productivity and associated foregone tax contributions; 
and  
(iv)       widening generation gap/diminished 
family unit cohesion.    
Conversely, a plethora the published writings by health experts, psychologists 
and economists attest to the synergies and economies that flow when members of a 
community believe that they are all being treated equally and fairly, where each 
person is paying his/her own way, and no one is scamming the system.  
Communities with those attributes are often labelled "Happy Towns" for 
their 'Eminent Sense of Community', loyalty and self-belief. 
	
		
			
				
					
					
						
						The research 
						shows that the 10 per cent of people with the lowest 
						financial literacy levels are more likely to: 
					 
				 
			 
		 
	 
 
	
	1.    be aged 16 to 20 years old (38.6 per cent) 
	
	2.    be male (55.6 per cent) 
	
	3.    be unemployed (7.1 per cent) or 
	students (29.6 per cent) 
	
	4.    have lower education levels (15 per 
	cent of those not currently studying had some high school education and 20 
	per cent of those not currently studying had completed Year 12) 
	
	5.    have lower annual personal income (34 
	per cent reported annual personal income under $10,000) 
	
	6.    have lower annual household income (44 
	per cent reported annual household income under $50,000) 
	
	7.    
	have never worked in paid employment. 
 
Hence, the bank with 
"extensive powers"
to regulate interest rate caps, as it did until 1979 for investment deposits 
held by banks 
(Section 9 below) is compelled to exercise those 
"extensive powers" 
									for "the economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia", 
in particular to protect those between 16 and 20 years old - as addressed in 
Section 8 B) (b) below.    
Federal independent MP Andrew Wilkie and Senator Nick Xenophon 
are seeking drastic changes to poker 
machines to reduce the adverse effects of poker machine gambling addiction.  
Other common addictions include nicotine and alcohol which according to Access Economics reports, each wreak an enormous 
burden upon the Australian economy. 
 
		
Estimated 
		Prevalence of Compulsive Buying Behavior in the United States 
(published by 
The American Journal of Psychiatry) 
written by Dr Lorrin Koran, Professor of Psychiatry, School of 
Medicine and Director of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Clinic Stanford 
University, California USA, and other eminent Behavioural Scientists, forecasts 
that 'Compulsive Buying' (uncontrolled urges to buy, with resulting significant 
difficult consequences) 
				adversely effects 1.8% to 16% of the adult U.S. 
				population.  
The US. National Institute on Drug Abuse has 
considered behavioural addictions (such as Compulsive Buying) to be "cleaner" 
and more homogeneous models of substance addictions. 
In 2008 Curtain University 
WA 
carried out research to 
investigate money attitudes and credit card usage between compulsive and 
non-compulsive buyers of young Australians.  
In its finding it recommended that "Marketers and policy makers 
are recommended to incorporate consumer education programs for young adults to 
build skills to counter financial problems." 
  
Casual empiricism of 
 
Attachment 'A' indicates that 
Credit Card Issuers are exploiting 
suffers of 'Compulsive 
Buying' substance addiction.  
Attachment 'F' is merely one example of a major Australian bank deploying 
predatory marketing to induce "unlucky" Australians, some who 
suffer from  'Compulsive 
Buying' substance addiction, to take a credit card 
with a high interest rate (approaching 20.99% pa for purchases and 21.74% for 
cash advances) which would prove more profitable to the Credit Card Issuers.  
7.         
Questions that Australia's central bank should be able to answer 
	
	1.   
	
	 Does the 
	statistic that 61 per cent circa of credit card users pay off 
	the closing balance of their credit card bill in full by the due date ‘every 
	month’ support my view that the credit card system does not follow the 
	
User Pays Principle?  Almost every person that I know either has a 
	periodical debit set up to repay their monthly credit card indebtedness 
	prior to expiry of the interest free threshold or diarises to repay their 
	full indebtedness, so as not to pay exorbitant interest rates.    
	
	2.   
	
	 Why "At 
	the other end of the spectrum, around one-quarter of credit card users pay 
	off their credit card in full ‘not very often’ or ‘hardly ever/never’"?
	 
	
	3.   
	Why does 
Australia's central bank have very little idea of the profitability of the 
credit card system on a demographic socio-economic basis when the RBA 
Board's proclaimed duty, within the limits of its 
								"...extensive powers..." 
		under 'inter alia' the Payment Systems (Regulation) Act 1998 are 
		"to ensure that the monetary and banking 
								policy of the Bank is 
								directed to the greatest advantage of the people 
								of Australia .......will best 
								contribute to...... the 
									economic prosperity and welfare of the 
									people of Australia."? 
	
	4.   
	
	 Why are 
	Australia's major banks announcing record profits?  Why are executive bonus 
	schemes reaching new zeniths each year? 
	
	5.   
	
	 Were the 
	riots in England 6 months ago a reaction by the 'Have Nots' to the 
	excesses of the 'Haves'?  If the gap was narrower, would the riots 
	have been smaller?   
	
	6.   
	
	 What is 
	the primary "biff" of the 'Occupy Wall Street' movements? 
	
	7.   
	 In light of the RBA's role to 
	"....best contribute to...... the economic 
	prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia.", 
	why is the 
	Retail Supply Side of the credit card system so
bereft of similar "competitiveness and efficiency"? 
	
	8.   
	
	 Is the 
	RBA conflicted with the major banks over its role to 
	ensure that the credit card system is directed to the - 
	*        greatest advantage of the people of Australia; and  
	*        economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia? 
	
	9.   
	
	 Is the 
	Payments System Board conflicted with the major banks over its role to 
	promote competition in the market for payment services, consistent with the 
	overall stability of the financial system, when 39% circa of credit 
	card users do not pay off 
	the closing balance of their credit card bill in full by the due date ‘every 
	month’ 
	and 
	
	one-quarter of credit card users pay off their credit card in full ‘not very 
	often’ or ‘hardly ever/never’"?  
	
	10. Why did the Treasurer and the Minister for Financial 
	Services and Superannuation issue a 
	Joint Press Release in July 2011 which 
	falsely asserted that the changes in the 
	National Consumer Credit Protection Amendment 
	(Home Loans and Credit Cards) Bill will 
	"stamp out lender practices that see consumers 
	pay more interest than they should" for 
	"some 15 million credit-card accounts in Australia." 
	when the changes from 1 July 2012 will have little or no impact on the 
	excessively high 
	interest rates that many of the 15 
	million credit-card accounts in Australia continue 
	to 
	incur?   
 
8.         Philip Johnston asks the RBA to 
- 
            
a)         accept that unlike the 
powerful lobby groups noted in Section 2 above, 
Credit Cardholders do not have 
access to a powerful lobby group to protect their interests; and 
            
b)         provide A) to 
H) below so that the 
credit card system is paid for by its users on a "User 
Pays basis", and not by 
many who can least afford it, because they were not "lucky" enough to be born with, 
or taught, requisite money management skills or take on a hefty mortgage during 
a period when the property market continued to appreciate   
  
 
Attachment 'B'
 provides an impressive 
array of achievements by the RBA in administering the credit and debit card 
systems.  In doing so, the RBA provides precedent for 
this letter requesting the RBA to rely upon the Payment 
Systems (Regulation) Act 1998 which gives the RBA 
"extensive powers" to 
- 
A)       "gather 
information from payment system participants and operators" 
by proceeding to obtain data
for a 
particular month (or quarter) 
from over 70 issuers  for the 
330 different
types of cards that are available which shows:  
	
		
		1.       Number of cards 
		that repaid total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of those 
repayments. 
		
		2.       Number of cards 
		that repaid > or =50% of total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of those 
> or = 50% repayments.  
		
		3.       Number of cards 
		that repaid<50% but >5% of total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of 
those <50% but >5% repayments.  
		
		4.       Number of cards 
		that repaid <=5% of total indebtedness and aggregate dollar amount of those <=5% 
repayments; 
	 
 
B)       "determine rules for participation in a payment 
system and set Standards for safety and efficiency, incl issues such as 
performance benchmarks" 
by proceeding to implement 
"cost-based  benchmarks" [akin to (I.), (II.) and (III.) 
in Section 2 above] by - 
            
(a)        setting 
a regulatory cap for all  the 
330 different types of cards which fall under the jurisdiction of the 
RBA of - 
                         
i)        850 basis 
points above the RBA 
Overnight Cash Rate as the maximum annual on-going 
interest rate charged by 
Credit Card Issuers in Australia for 
Purchases, where Credit Card Issuers can reach, but not exceed, this Purchase Interest Rate Cap;  
                         
ii)       950 basis points above the RBA 
Overnight Cash Rate as the maximum 
annual on-going interest rate charged by 
Credit Card Issuers in Australia for 
Cash 
Advances, where Credit Card Issuers can reach, but not exceed, this Cash Advance Interest Rate Cap - refer 
50% cap on cash advances in D) below; and 
                         
iii)      $90 for the 
maximum Annual Credit Card Fee that a Credit Card Issuers can charge 
(in 1993
restrictions on annual fees for credit 
cards were removed, so it is not unreasonable to introduce a cap, 
particularly as some cards charge inordinately high annual fees to provide 
'inter alia' high loyalty points which surprisingly avoid income and FBT 
taxes.) 
                           
    
        (b)        
learning from point 1. of CBA's research in Section 4, set an 'Access Regime' 
that each 
credit card issued in Australia to a person who has 
not previously owned a credit card be a Provisional Charge Card, 
hereinafter PCC, with a conservative credit limit where the owner of the 
PCC is required for the initial 12 months to repay the 
outstanding balance on the PCC in full by the due date (9 days from the Issue 
Date and 7 days from the normal receipt date for postal delivery) or be subject to severe late fees and restrictions on future 
PCC use, 
with 
deferment of receiving a traditional credit card until the PCC owner complies with the PCC 
repayment obligations for 12 months without breach.    
C)        reduce the non-interest period from 'up to 55 days' to 'up to 40 days' to reduce the cost burden on 
Credit Card Issuers 
because electronic payments enable Credit Cardholders to pay their monthly 
repayments within a few days of notification of the final monthly balance.     
D)        continue to sanction the market practice of not providing a non interest period  
for  
Cash 
Advances, but restrict the limit for 
Cash 
Advances to 50% of the 
total
 Credit 
Card Limit because as 
Wikipedia explains - 
*        "a 
credit card is a small plastic card issued to users 
as 
a system of payment"; and  
*         the original cards
"required 
the entire bill to be paid with each statement". 
E)        increase the 
minimum repayment required from 2.5% to 25% of the outstanding debit balance 
which shouldn't faze >60% of 
Credit Cardholders and will materially reduce the 
interest burden on the remaining <40%. 
F)        allow Credit Card Issuers to levy - 
             
a)        an explicit 'Lost Card Fee' for - 
                         *          placing a stop on an account; and/or
 
                         *          issuing a replacement credit card(s) commensurate with the cost to the 
Credit Card Issuers of 
issuing a replacement credit card(s); and 
             
b)        a 'Fraud Provision Fee' upon each 
credit card user each month based on the quantum of transactions and the 
outstanding undrawn indebtedness (eg. for a credit card user with a $5,000 
credit limit, who made 10 purchases in a month, with an outstanding undrawn 
balance of $3,000 (vulnerable to fraudulent access) the 'Fraud Provision Fee' 
for that month would be say 10 @ 0.15c = $1.50 + say $3,000 @ 0.0003c = $0.90 for a total monthly 
'Fraud Provision Fee' of $2.40 for enjoying the convenience of using a 
credit card 
for 10 transactions with a $5,000 credit limit.    
G)        establish a 
uniform credit evaluation methodology that all Credit Card Issuers must 
observe similar to 
NAB's Microenterprise Loans
because to many Australian adults are obtaining credit cards 
with excessive interest rates which would be lower if the defaults were lower 
due to a robust standard credit analysis methodology. 
H)        prosecute the 
case on behalf of the "unlucky" Australians with 
		
Baycorp Advantage  
'et al'
	and the 
Credit Card Issuers to establish and 
regulate protocols and systems so 
"unlucky" Australians cannot obtain 
between 6 and 10 credit cards, as evidenced by 
Tony Devlin, Head 
		Financial Counsellor,
		Salvation Army's Moneycare service, in Section 4 above.    
	 
 
Attachment 'C' 
and 
 
Attachment 'D' 
 
provides authority for the RBA Board and the 
PSB to - 
 I.          pursue A) 
to H) above; 
and 
 II.         inform the Government that the RBA's monetary and banking policy needs to 
regulate to implement B)(a) and B)(b) above 
"for the economic prosperity and welfare of 
(ALL) 
the people of Australia" 
and not merely the "lucky" ones.  
  
9.         
Our previous Prime Minister called for more regulation to mitigate the causes 
of the GFC  
In Feb 2009, 
"The Monthly", published an essay by the then PM, Kevin Rudd, titled "The Global Financial Crisis" which
made a palpable case that the neo-liberalism ideology, which the essay argued had 
prevailed amongst the 'Financial Market' from 1973 to 2008, had - 
a)         failed 
unequivocally; and  
b)         must be replaced by social democracy to 'inter alia' 
"..........prevent liberal capitalism from cannibalising 
itself"  and  
".....also devising a 
								new regulatory regime for the financial markets 
								of the future."   
That essay 
contained the words - 
*         
'social democracy' (a central role for government in the 
regulation of markets and the provision of public goods) 
21 times; and  
*         
'neo-liberalism' (unrestrained free-market ideology) 
13 times.   
It was a 
significant admonishment of the flaws and failings of the latter financial 
markets ideology from a Prime Minister of Australia. 
Below is one 
pertinent extract: 
	"The intellectual 
								challenge for social democrats is not just to 
								repudiate the neo-liberal extremism that has 
								landed us in this mess, but to advance the case 
								that the social-democratic state offers the best 
								guarantee of preserving the productive capacity 
								of properly regulated competitive markets, while 
								ensuring that government is the 
								regulator............ and that
								government offsets the inevitable 
								inequalities of the market with a commitment to 
								fairness for all." 
 
The thrust of 
this letter is for the inequalities of credit cards available from Credit Card Issuers to be corrected with a commitment to 
								"user pays" - 
*         
"...to achieve fairness for all"; 
and  
*         
".....to rebuild confidence 
								in properly regulated markets." 
								
								In 
"slamming" neo-liberalism, Kevin Rudd highlighted Alan Greenspan's public mea culpa admission.  Alan Greenspan had recently conceded in 
								testimony before Congress that his ideological 
								viewpoint was flawed, and that the "whole intellectual edifice" of modern risk management 
								had collapsed.  Chair of the 
								Congressional Committee on Oversight and 
								Government Reform, Henry Waxman, questioned Greenspan further: 
								"In other words, you found that your view of the 
								world, your ideology, was not right; it was not 
								working?" 
								Greenspan replied, "Absolutely, precisely."    
  
10.       
Our current Prime Minister is committed to credit card reform 
 
Our current 
PM, Julia Gillard is also committed to - 
*        
 help give hard working Australians a 
better deal when it comes to credit cards; and 
*      
   
"...delivering reforms that 
strengthen protections for consumers and give regulators the tools they need to 
enforce the law."  
- pg 
4 
  
Seemingly 
from the below indented extract our current PM is in favour of ASIC 
exercising its rights under 
The National Consumer Credit Protection Reform Package
where 
"....civil penalties for licensee misconduct ..... enable ASIC to seek heavy fines of up to 
$220,000 for an individual and $1.1 million for a corporation."  
  
	
	"Under the new national code, 
	credit providers face possible imprisonment for up to two years for serious 
	breaches of the responsible lending conduct requirements or heavy fines of 
	up $220,000 for an individual and $1.1 million for a corporation." 
	- pg 5 
 
11.       Regulation v De-regulation 
This letter seeks 
the RBA to prosecute the case against the other powerful lobby groups (particularly the Credit Card Issuers) on behalf 
of the "unlucky" Australians (nearly 
half of the population with either level 1 (the lowest level) or level 2, both 
below the minimum level deemed necessary to participate in a knowledge-based 
economy (level 3) so Credit Card Issuers employ the 
User Pays Principle 
with - 
i)          an 
annual interest rate (for indebtedness beyond the interest free period) that 
reflects the real cost of funds and real credit risk; and  
ii)         an annual fee that reflects the marginal cost 
of providing the card and servicing the account.    
The naysayer would argue that the RBA would be 
creating a nanny state.   
Sections 9 and 
10 above which followed Alan Greenspan's public 
								
mea culpa   
								 is just one 
example of a litany of regulatory reform across Western economies where 
regulators ultimately opted for greater regulation after the 'free market' had 
become too greedy or rendered economies too unstable.   
The swings 
between laissez-faire and 'robust regulation' are as common as big 
organisations swinging between spreading power/decision making authority away 
from the centre (Head Office) to local branches (decentralisation) because they 
contend that one size doesn't fit all and perceive economies.  And 
then 5 or 10 years later a new management recentralises control because they 
perceive economies. 
History 
evidences that some de-regulation is beneficial and some not so.  The financial sector regulations which 
operated through the '70s restricted competition among the banks and diverted 
some of the resulting cartel profits to cross subsidise lending to home owners - 
providing a cheap pool of funds for discounted home finance which evidenced 
Australians to have a very high level of home ownership.  But the cartelisation 
of the banks eventually led to an expansion of banking activities by NBFIs, so 
that the regulations which had once boosted bank profits ended up restricting 
their ability to compete with NBFIs.  Consequently the banks were not 
hostile to many aspects of the proposed deregulation of the financial system, 
and accepted others, e.g. the opening of the sector to new entrants, as an 
inevitable price to be paid for being allowed to compete aggressively with the 
NBFIs.  During my brief exposure to working in CBA branches between 1970 
and 1974, I recall that the banking acts regulated the maximum interest rate that 
any bank could offer at - 
*           6½% 
on savings investment accounts (minimum account balance of $500, deposits and withdrawals must be $100 or greater and 7 days written notice to the bank for all 
transactions); and  
*           a paltry 3¼% on passbook accounts.   
Building societies, credit unions and other 
NBFIs were offering materially higher investment rates and drawing monies away 
from the banks.  Initially, regulators looked at bringing these NBFIs under the same regulations.  However, in 1979 the 
Campbell Committee opted to remove the caps on bank investment deposits. 
Some assert that deregulation of 
the housing finance market in the USA under the Clinton administration was a 
catalyst to the GFC.   
Restrictions on annual fees for credit cards were removed in 1993 
which enabled increased application of the 
User Pays Principle. 
Some deregulation is generally 
beneficial, whereas some proves to be otherwise.  Presently, as pointed out above 
the 
Wholesale Supply Side appears adequately regulated, whereas the 
Retail 
Supply Side is bereft of prudential regulation, whereupon 'caveat emptor' is the only 
safeguard.  Alas, as the afore-mentioned 
2010 Productivity Commission's report 
found 
nearly half on Australia's 22.8 million population are "unlucky" 
Australians who do not possess requisite literacy and numeracy skills 
to be 'aware buyers' not just of consumer goods, but also credit card 
offers akin to the 
ANZ First Visa card, particularly 
"unlucky" Australians who suffer from 'Compulsive Buying' substance addiction.    
Australia's 
healthcare system is heavily regulated, politically contested and subject to 
considerable media and public scrutiny.  Australians enjoy a highly 
cost-effective health care system by world standards.  The downside is that 
professionals in health, ranging from doctors, dentists, optometrists, 
pharmacists etc., do not receive the same level of remuneration than 
counterparts in the USA, Canada, France, UK etc.  By comparison with the 
enormous focus on cost containment in health care servicing across Australia, 
alas the 
Retail Supply Side of the credit card system lacks 
"cost-based benchmarks". 
 
It wasn't regulation, but a 'class action' brought by Maurice Blackburn that has 
evidenced all banks materially reduce their late-penalty fees for credit cards, 
and abolish or reduce dozens of other fees over the past two years. 
 Seemingly banks have over-priced their credit card 
'late payment fees' relative to the economic cost suffered due to holders' 
late payments. 
12.       
Conclusion 
The arguments presented above 
- 
(i)         establish 
that literacy and numeracy skills
 
for nearly half of the population were 
assessed at either levels 1 (the lowest level) or 2, both of 
which are below the minimum level deemed necessary to participate in a 
knowledge-based economy (level 3) 
as ascribed by the Productivity Commission's report 
Links Between Literacy and Numeracy 
Skills and Labour Market Outcomes dated 
Aug 2010; 
(ii)        bestow a 
'proxy role' on the RBA to be the lobbyist for "unlucky" Australians, many of whom do 
not possess requisite skills to manage their personal finances, nor do they 
enjoy the negotiating acumen of some of the powerful lobby groups in the 
Wholesale Supply Side (listed in Section 2 above) to press their own case 
for the interest rates on credit cards to be based on the cost of funds and 
credit default risk, not
 
set 1,600 to 1,700 basis points above the RBA Official 
Cash Rate; and
 
(iii)       behove the RBA's Board to 
- 
            (a)       regulate the 
Retail 
Supply Side of the credit card system to 
apply 
"cost-based benchmarks" 
to achieve a 
"user pays" structure as requested in Section 8 above; and 
            (b)       inform the Government, pursuant to 
section 11 "Differences 
of opinion with Government
on questions of policy" of
 
The Reserve Bank Act 1959, as amended,
that the RBA's monetary and banking policy needs to 
regulate to implement B)(a) and B)(b) above 
"for the economic prosperity and welfare of 
(ALL) 
the people of Australia" 
and not merely for "lucky" Australians who are 
proficient
 
to participate in a knowledge-based economy because they are assessed to be level 3 
and do not over-commit immediately prior to an economic slowdown.   
13.       
Postscript 
Whilst the 
need to adopt the 
User Pays Principle in the 
Retail 
Supply Side of the credit 
card system is palpable, it is more difficult to expect 
one country in particular to similarly 'pay for what it uses'.  The US central bank issues 
Federal Reserve Notes to raise capital to fund its federal expenditure and to 
retire maturing debt (notes).  The RBA does similarly by issuing 
Commonwealth Government Bonds.  However, it 
seems dishonest for the U.S. to apply the misnomer of 'quantitative easing' 
(the practice doesn't 'ease' the quantity of money, it increases the quantity) by merely 
printing more 'green backs' 
ex nihilo to retire debt which looks horribly like 
stealing from other countries who 'pay for what they use'.  But the G7 and the G20 
are 
silent to the injustices upon the rest of debtor, and indeed creditor, countries of this practice 
as the US contemplates QE3.  Perhaps because 
the Gs recognise that if the USA (350m of 7b global population = 5% 
of global 
population, but accounting for up to 25% of global emissions from consumption) became insolvent, the consequences would 
be a global 
meltdown which could be 10 times more catastrophic than the Great Depression.  
But does that still make it OK for the US to print money to avoid 'paying for 
what it uses' when "not living within its means"?  Our Federal Treasurer has called for EU countries such as Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain 
to accept austerity measures to live within their means.  Why isn't 
Wayne Swan 
beseeching the US to do likewise?  If I 
was to print Aust $10 notes to pay my debts, the RBA, and perhaps a few other 
federal agencies, would be down on me 'like a ton of bricks' with 
seemingly valid righteous resolve.  But I would only be doing what 
the US does to the rest of the world.   
  
The US has enjoyed a 'privileged ride' because of Bretton Woods.  
The Gs should be looking to reduce the impact of 
global hedge 
funds pushing up the USD each time there is a financial crisis, perhaps by 
having more large transactions written in Euros or GBP and any other mechanism 
at their disposal including increased regulation and financial reporting.  
On the face of it regulation of hedge fund managers and registered schemes by 
ASIC in Australia is far-reaching comparable to other jurisdictions.  
Seemingly, US hedge 
funds are not governed by the same regulations as other US 
managed investments or mutual funds. The majority of hedge fund managers are 
domiciled in the US where 
hedge 
funds are not supervised like Securities and 
Exchange Commission registered mutual funds, as 
hedge 
funds are not currently 
required to register with the SEC. 
  
								Just as 
Alan Greenspan 
								
								conceded before the US Congress that his 
ideological viewpoint that free markets shunning certain regulations was flawed and Maurice Blackburn had caused the banking sector to reprice its fees, the writer of this letter 
believes that central banks have similarly 'got it wrong' by being too close to 
Credit Card Issuers to the detriment in this country of many "unlucky" 
countrymen.  I am sure that the 
WEF would agree 
(Section 5 above).  Alas, the problem is universal across the Western World.  The Lucky Country can lead the way 
to reform through regulation because banks continue to report 
excessive profits.  The 'mature' 
industry of banking, with high barriers to entry, should not be reporting record 
profits, with the senior executive and board members remunerated excessively, 
relative to the other 99% of their employees.   
  
  
The focus on addressing the 
adverse effects of climate change is a return to pre-1990 emission 
levels.  A similar parallel exists in the distribution of remuneration with 
pie charts of the remuneration of 
major banks between 1990 and today highlighting an alarming injustice trend.  
The piece of the pie which feeds exec. management, the board and a few 'whiz kid' 
dealers is getting wider and wider, with the rest of the pie to feed the 
remaining 99% of banks' employees commensurately narrower.  What has changed to justify 
exec. management, boards and a few money market manipulators earning 
between 3 and 13 times more than they did 21 years ago?   
  
  
SMH 'Business 
Day' article "Middle class hit by debt 
- 
					Huge 
mortgage repayments and credit cards bills are taking their toll"
					alludes to the social problems resulting 
from excessive credit card debt and the financial counselling involved in 
seeking to mitigate the fallout.  Merit patently exists in the bank 
chartered with "....the 
economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia" 
treating the cause of the problem rather than counsellors 
attempting to put bandaids on the all too often horrendous effects. 
NB:      In 1985 when I worked in Representational 
Network at CBA, the then Chief Manager, Deposit Services, Peter Andrews, asked 
me to write a paper on CSB introducing explicit fee pricing for the traditional 
passbook accounts because customers were increasingly depositing cheques into their passbook 
accounts, thereby reducing fee income from CTB 
cheque accounts and increasing servicing costs on savings accounts.  Coupled with this, the implicit interest margin between 
where CBA bought money through savings investment accounts (capped by regulation @ 6½%  
'til 1980) and 
deposits into savings accounts (capped by regulation @ 3¼% 'til 1980) and where it sold (lent) money 
through loans was eroding due to NBFIs (building societies, credit unions, 
Estate Mortgage Trusts, Equiticorp 'et al') attracting a lot of previously high balance 
savings account balances.  A month later after reading copious banking journals 
from the USA and the UK about how their banks addressed the same problem, my 
15 foolscap pages titled "The Application of Fee Based Income to CSB Passbook Accounts" which sought to apply the 
User Pays Principle went 
up to Peter Wilson, Chief General Manager, Retail Banking HO.  I 
was told later that Peter Wilson had supported my paper, but thought it better 
for one of the other Pillar Banks to be the first to introduce such fees 
which would be politically sensitive, and Commonwealth Bank was still viewed by 
Australians as the peoples bank.  The need for 'fee-based income' re-surfaced in CBA in 1987 
whereupon I sent my memo submission to the new Chief Manager, Deposit Services, 
Jim O'Ryan, 
who sent back a thank your response note after 
reading it.  I retain a copy of that submission paper.  
 
            Times have changed with bank fees these day applying the 
User Pays Principle 
scrupulously, except to the 
Retail Supply Side of credit cards which is 
 
All Smoke and Mirrors.
 
Yours sincerely 
 Philip Johnston 
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